Hagnauer Burgstall Müller-Thurgau Kabinett 2012 (Germany)

Nose:  Initially pretty citrusy, but there's something else going on there. A bit of lemon meringue? There's something.

Taste:  Dry. There's something a tiny bit sweet in the very beginning - something that slightly sets it apart from a normal dry white.

Finish:  A bit mineral-y in the finish.

What we say: V - 'Is there banana here again? A bit of 'spargel'? Or have we just been in Germany too long?'

What they say:  Nuttin'

Rate:  5

Price:  €5.95

Spitalkellerei Konstanz Müller-Thurgau 2011 (Germany)

Nose:  Fresh, lively, and citrusy, on the grapefruit side of things - a bit sweet, maybe a hint of vanilla?

Taste:  A bit tart at the beginning, but only a medium-dry overall - there's a hint of sweetness.

Finish: Interestingly, honey - but not overly sweet at all - just a touch.  Perhaps honeysuckle?

What we say:  S - "It's a bit sweet, what is it?"  "It's almost floral, but it's not - definitely honey."  "I think it's good - it's a good summer wine."  V - "This is reasonably unique from what we've had before in white wine - a good combination of citrus with a smattering of sweetness - I like it."

What they say: Nuttin'

Rating:  7

Price:  €7.29